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Friday, 19 March 2010



In defense of forecasting
Posted by Randy Smith at 12:00 AM

Editor’s Note: This is a rebuttal to “Industry uses wrong metrics to project RevPAR.” In it, columnist Joel Ross argues the perceived relationship between revenue per available room and GDP is problematic.

Yes, the prognosticators for the industry missed the worst decline in RevPAR in history, but that was not because of some perceived relationship of RevPAR to GDP. We at STR have been tracking the lodging industry’s performance for more than 25 years and we are not sure that anyone has ever even looked at the relationship between RevPAR and GDP.  RevPAR is not the same as room nights sold or lodging demand. That is the relationship that is studied so intently. RevPAR projections are actually just a mathematical outgrowth of room supply, room demand and room rate projections.

The econometric variables that go into each of those projections is varied and quite detailed. Room-supply projections have their own attributes as does room demand and room rates (though everyone is still struggling to isolate those variables that do a good job of projecting room rates). We do not think a forecast for this industry has ever been compiled just using expected changes in GDP or the relationship between current performance and that of previous downturns. While those are key items to look at, they are hardly the sole criteria for a forecast.

No one forecast the September 2008 collapse of Lehman Brothers, the collapse of the financial sector of our economy or the disparaging comments made by President Obama that decimated demand at U.S. luxury hotels and resorts. We also didn’t see any forecasts that predicted the industry would respond to this downturn by slashing room rates by levels never seen by anyone. In addition, we failed to see any media coverage that forecasted the supply projections kept supply growth at historically high levels in spite of collapsing demand.

In hindsight, most projections were off on RevPAR because of the sharp decrease in room rates that no model accurately projected. The supply and demand projections were not as far off, though even minor shifts in these two variables resulted in occupancy performance falling well below expected levels. All of this said, there clearly are problems using GDP numbers, which Ross said “are distorted by various major factors of historic proportions.” The problem stems from the fact that virtually all of the variables used in any model have been distorted by various factors of historic proportions including the industry’s own performance. In this environment, the number of variables one has to look at to develop a solid forecast explodes. It does not narrow down to only one variable like GDP.

Ross suggests “some metrics that really do matter,” including the unemployment rate, the foreclosure rate, international travel, local taxes and issues with leverage and underwriting. STR has been using those metrics along with at least 10 other variables, including capital spending, fuel and airline pricing, consumer price index, industrial production, disposable personal income and currency shifts. There is an evident relationship between changes in GDP and changes in lodging demand, and we sometimes like to show this relationship during our presentations.  But to imply that is the sole criteria for developing a RevPAR forecast for the lodging industry is incorrect.



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09 April 2010 at 4:37 PM EST
In response to: In defense of forecasting
ghartmann commented:
Well I just hope industry leaders with proven track records like Randy Smith and Steve Rushmore continue to put themselves out there by applying their knowledge and experience in the form of prognostications to guide our industry despite the fact that they cannot always be right. But I am sorry to have offended you Joel and do wish you the best of luck in the future. Although I suppose "best wishes" require a forecast that cannot be counted on to be accurate in every case so you may need to take them with a grain of salt.

08 April 2010 at 1:43 PM EST
In response to: In defense of forecasting
joel ross commented:
I see from your comment and your past articles that you are not well informed about much of anything realted to the financial markets or CMBS. Ethen was who I did the initial hotel CMBS programs with, and if he now says otherwise it has been 17 years and it may be that he forgets. There are several other former Nomura managing directors who do remember. There are hundreds of others who have also not forgotten. As to my articles and prognosis I have lots of proof, but would not waste my time on you to educate you to what really goes on in the world of the capital markets. Bitter young man you are.

06 April 2010 at 10:58 AM EST
In response to: In defense of forecasting
ghartmann commented:
Joel, someday I would like to see the correct predictions you constantly claim to have made BEFORE the events you forecast actually occur. You are great at claiming to have “invented CMBS” (ala AL Gore and the internet), 20 years after it was invented and touting about how you saw the fall of the US Economy and Financial Markets back in 2007 but conveniently failed to report it until 2009. Even if you do have some article or blog post indicating some concerns several years ago, I am sure you say the opposite in another post within a few weeks of that one. Finally, even if by some miracle the idea of CMBS crossed your mind back in 1993, it seems to me that "your idea" would be more to blame more for the market collapse than any analyst, lender, appraiser or prognosticator for the financial collapse we just experienced. But honestly, you are probably not to blame because as most of us who have worked in and around CMBS since the 1990’s, including Ethan Penner, who if he did not invent CMBS, certainly was its largest early facilitator, never heard of you or your involvement with CMBS until you started blogging about it recently.

27 March 2010 at 12:36 PM EST
In response to: In defense of forecasting
Joel Ross commented:
At ALIS 2008 I told you Revpar would decline 1% in 08 and much more in 2009, but you argued with me that I did not know what I was talking about. You say in your recent article that nobody forecast the bankruptcy of Lehman, but that is not true. In my private newsletter Ross Rant, I in fact did forcast this event several months before it occurred. Other people in Wall St did as well. When Bear Stearns went under many if us knew Lehman would likely follow. My whole point is, hotel industry forecasters do not look at what matters, the capital markets, and related indicators, and so you completely missed what was so evident to many of us outside the hotel industry in May of 2007. Rushmore told me in January 2009, that I could not have known in January 2008 waht was coming. We could not understand how so many of you did not see it. The capital markets crashed in July of 2007 and the economy followed. By January 2008 the facts were glaringly there for all to see, but the hotel industry was not looking. Instead you were forecasting an increase of 5.7% in revpar for 2008. I repeat the point in my article-if you could not see the worst recession in 80 years and the worst decline in revpar in history, then clearly you need to be looking at different metrics than the ones you are using. Several of my friends in real estate and Wall St saw it coming in the spring of 2007, as clearly as a hurricane, and were sellers that year. We even discussed at a lunch on May 9,2007 which week the capital markets would crash. We correctly projected mid July 2007. You need to revise your forecasting metrics.



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